Zynchronicity

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Re: Zynchronicity

Postby SillyBilly » Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:17 am

I already mentioned this in my topic on the "ASK YOUR QUESTIONS HERE" section of this site, but this is a better place to post it.

Michael Butterfield stated in an article that Z´s "electric gun sight" might have been influenced by an episode of "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" titled "Museum Price". Well, I recently got interested on Hitchcock´s work and so I decided to watch some of his movies. And if you see the movie "The Wrong Man", you will see that Hitchcock makes an intro of it, something that I think he did not do in his other movies. And how does Hitchcock starts his presentation? By saying "This is Alfred Hitchcock speaking", just like Z started his letters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itbJUTlP5yk

Not only that, Hitchcock states in the intro that the movie his based on a true story that has elements which are stranger fiction - well, isn´t that a good description of the case of the Zodiac?

The main character of the movie "The Wrong Man" - a man called Manny - is wrongfully arrested as a suspect in a robbery case. The reason why law enforcement decided to charge him for the robbery was because just like the note left by the real burgler, Manny made a mispelling in a handwriting sample by writing the word "draw" instead of correctly writing "drawer". Who also made mispelings in his writings? - Zodiac. Could this movie have influenced Zodiac - could he have deliberately made misspelings in order to draw attentions to a wrong suspect, who could have made simmilar errors (just like what happened to the character Manny in the movie)? Does this prove Zodiac was into Alfred Hitchcock´s works?
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Re: Zynchronicity

Postby Coffee Time » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:23 am

Googling around shows that Hitch said "This is Alfred Hitchcock speaking" at least a few times. Once in an episode of his TV show, where he appeared with a St. Bernard. I agree that there's probably something to it. It's hard to say what his intentions truly were, but the Hitchcock angle fits better than the old ham radio theory.
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Re: Zynchronicity

Postby SillyBilly » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:09 am

You are right, Coffee Time! :D

Hitch also said "This is Alfred Hitchcock speaking" was in the preface of the books "12 Stories They Wouldn´t Let Me Do On TV" and "13 More Stories They Wouldn´t Let Me Do On TV". I really do believe there is something to it, with this and the "circle of light" of the "Museum Price" episode.
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Re: Zynchronicity

Postby DoctorS » Fri May 12, 2017 9:18 am

Ok. Time to post my own Zychronicity. It's a coincidence that is meaningful only to me, and I realize that completely. I wouldn't normally share something so personal, but since a couple thousand strangers read this every day, why not? One of my pet theories is that Zodiac was heavily influenced by infamous serial murderers covered by the media during his childhood. He may have felt fear himself; he certainly was aware of the how the killers horrified the masses.

From the Phantom Killer in Texarkana, the hood. From Jack the Ripper, the letters to the newspapers. And from the Black Dahlia, sending items from the victim to the newspaper. So a few weeks ago I was watching a documentary on Elizabeth Short (the Black Dahlia for those who don't know) and it mentioned that her estranged father, Cleo Short, was once a suspect in her murder. Considering my theory that Zodiac was heavily influenced by the press surrounding the BD murder, imagine my surprise when the documentary stated that Cleo Short lived in...wait for it...Vallejo, California!

Let me go on record that I don't think Cleo Short killed his daughter and I definitely don't think he was the Zodiac, either. Just one of those crazy head scratching coincidences so common to the Zodiac case.
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Re: Zynchronicity

Postby Tahoe27 » Fri May 12, 2017 11:51 am

^^Definitely sparks an interest when you hear that for the first time, doesn't it? From what I remember, she went to visit him there not too long before she was killed.
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Re: Zynchronicity

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Re: Zynchronicity

Postby SillyBilly » Sun May 21, 2017 7:51 am

The guy who believes the Hardens were responsobile for the Zodiac murders referenced this in some of his last videos.

In the "Detective Story Magazine" number of August 27th of 1921, the main story on it is titled "Z", about a guy who murders bank presidents and employees. "Z" phonecalls a local newspaper, and presents himself according to the person who picked the call by saying "This is Z speaking".

https://archive.org/stream/dsm_1921_08_ ... 0/mode/2up

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Re: Zynchronicity

Postby Tahoe27 » Sun May 21, 2017 10:35 pm

^^^Now, that is interesting.
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Re: Zynchronicity

Postby doranchak » Mon May 22, 2017 5:08 am

That same issue of Detective Story Magazine has a cipher:

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I have just recently re-read Donald Harden's quote where he says he thinks the cipher author was not of a high intellect, and possibly got his cipher knowledge from a "not-too-high level of detective story":

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I think it will be worthwhile to start cataloging the types of ciphers that appear in these magazines.
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Re: Zynchronicity

Postby doranchak » Mon May 22, 2017 5:28 am

More zync: "Saved by a cipher" story, and uses the word "clew".

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Source is Nov 22, 1912 issue of Coronado Eagle and Journal. https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=CJ19121122.2.46
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