Pay Phone Locations in San Francisco

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Pay Phone Locations in San Francisco

Postby YourSecretPal » Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:14 pm

I'm trying to locate where the phone booth that it's claimed the Zodiac called to request a cab... if he did.
I read on Richard's site Toschi says he called from union square...
Though my theory involves market st


http://www.payphone-project.com/numbers ... FRANCISCO/
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Re: Pay Phone Locations in San Francisco

Postby Richard Grinell » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:41 pm

It may have been the lobby of the Westin St Francis Hotel. Most hotels have payphones and/or phones in the lobby.
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Re: Pay Phone Locations in San Francisco

Postby YourSecretPal » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:34 pm

Thanks Richard. Great site btw have read lots of good info on there.
www.zodiacciphers.com

Is that just their assumption based on the time and distance? I bet it is, as they couldnt have traced the call...
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Re: Pay Phone Locations in San Francisco

Postby Richard Grinell » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:07 am

The police themselves calculated the pick up, based on Stine's last contact with taxi dispatcher Leroy Sweet and the taxicab meter reading. The information on my site your talking about is information taken from Harvey Hines full report, in which he quotes Dave Toschi regarding the Union Square payphone.
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Re: Pay Phone Locations in San Francisco

Postby Richard Grinell » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:32 pm

Small extract from the 120 page report, thanks to Welsh;
"Now, according to John Miles, I find that Kane lived at 217 Eddy Street in San Francisco prior to his moving to South Lake Tahoe. In looking at an area map of San Francisco, I found 217 Eddy Street appeared to be only about two to three blocks from where Paul Stine picked up the Zodiac on October 11th 1969. I then called inspector Dave Toschi at the San Francisco Police Department and got more details on the Stine killing. Toschi said they had determined the killer had called for a cab using the public payphone located at Union Square. Toschi said the cab picked the killer up and drove to the corner of Washington and Cherry Streets. At this point the cab driver was shot in the head. The killer was then seen by three witnesses from a residence nearby, wiping down the cab. Apparently wiping away fingerprints. Toschi said he also cut away a portion of Stine's bloodied shirt. After doing this, he calmly walked away in the direction of the Presidio Army Installation."
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Re: Pay Phone Locations in San Francisco

Postby Soze » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:22 am

Questions:

So it is relatively a matter of fact that Z was in Union Square just prior to pick up and phoned a cab from that location?

What does this say about him being picked up near Geary theater?

Union square is a couple blocks east of the theater.

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Re: Pay Phone Locations in San Francisco

Postby Richard Grinell » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:09 am

If we believe the account of Harvey Hines. Although there is no reason to disbelieve his claim. Could this crucial payphone call have been withheld by police to potentially rule out future bogus claims and people taking credit for the crime. Something police should have done in Riverside regarding the distributor, as Mike pointed out in the latest podcast.
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