May 8, a connection to Zodiac?

May 8, a connection to Zodiac?

Postby morf13 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:13 pm

I was skimming thru the yellow book today, when something caught my eye. Here's a quote from the Graysmith book, Zodiac-

"Friday May 8,1970 In Santa Rosa, a K mart department store was evacuated after an anonymous telephone bomb threat by a man identifying himself as Zodiac. A man identifying himself as Zodiac had made a Santa Rosa Bomb threat exactly a year earlier."

One year earlier, would be May 8,1969. Zodiac was NOT known to police yet,nor had he called himself Zodiac yet or written a letter yet, that would not happen until August 1969, 3 months later. If this is legitimate, and the bomb threat on 5/8/69 featured a call from 'Zodiac', this could be the real deal, and proof that Z was operating as Zodiac BEFORE his August 69 letters. The question is, can we verify such a bomb threat happened on May 8,1969, and that the person calling it in, called himself Zodiac?

I know Fred manalli has ties to Santa Rosa, which initially got my attention, but how about the date itself? May mean something to Zodiac,if it really was him. Any of the Suspects have a 5/8 Birthday?? Any Z like murders on 5/8 of any year?
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Re: May 8, a connection to Zodiac?

Postby Vossler » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:10 pm

Wow. I was just re-reading this section over the weekend, too. We lost power for over two days because of the ice storm, so I decided to read the book again to refresh my memory about some of Graysmith's claims. The passage you mentioned didn't sit right with me and left a nagging feeling, but I couldn't really figure out why until you pointed out that this bomb threat happened before Z began publicly using the name "Zodiac."

It's certainly possible that this is another of Graysmith's fables, but I'm not sure how he would benefit from this one so there could be something to it. Nice eye, Morf!
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Re: May 8, a connection to Zodiac?

Postby Paul_Averly » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:18 pm

It's certainly possible that this is another of Graysmith's fables


Graysmith did write much of the book based on info he got from newspaper articles. Unless he actually interviewed people in Santa Rosa, he may have taken the story from a newspaper article. Meaning the police would have told the newspaper reporter that Z phoned in a bomb threat in '69, and the article would be in the Santa Rosa paper.
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Re: May 8, a connection to Zodiac?

Postby Seagull » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:26 pm

Here is an aerial view of the K Mart in Santa Rosa taken in 1970. It's the rectangular building on the right in the center.

I found it at this link-

http://heritage.sonomalibrary.org/cdm/r ... l10/id/298

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Re: May 8, a connection to Zodiac?

Postby Paul_Averly » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:28 pm

Also - "Badlands card" - MAY 8th 1974!
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Re: May 8, a connection to Zodiac?

Postby Tahoe27 » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:01 am

I actually spoke with a couple of people about this and they never could find any newspaper articles or any reports of the bomb threat ever happening. I posted about this on the zk.com message board, but believe the thread was deleted. It was back when M. Butterfield was posting his Grays"myth" stuff there.

I contacted some libraries for help as well. No one ever found anything. That is not to say it didn't happen. They could have simply not located the article. But, the people I spoke with from the local newspaper company could not find anything in their archives.

Funny though...Zodiac and Kmart? Nah...

If it's out there...Seagull will find it. ;)
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"...they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs--other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac's doorstep." L.A. Times, 1969
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Re: May 8, a connection to Zodiac?

Postby Seagull » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:52 am

I vaguely recall those posts, Tahoe. Part of the reason I posted the above picture with the link that identifies it with being taken in 1970 is because I also remember someone saying that the K Mart was built after 1970 so what Graysmith wrote couldn't be true. I will look through the Santa Rosa newspaper when I'm down that way. I have found that Graysmith can be off on his dates so I will search before and after the date he gave.
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Re: May 8, a connection to Zodiac?

Postby morf13 » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:07 am

"Kmart, which is owned by Sears Holding Corp., says it wants to extend its lease on the 116,000-square-foot store it has occupied in northwest Santa Rosa since 1970."

"The discount department store has been fighting its eviction from the 10-acre property on Cleveland Avenue for years, and could face a multi-million judgment for refusing to leave."



Looks like RG made, yet another boo boo
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Re: May 8, a connection to Zodiac?

Postby Seagull » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:09 am

I don't follow, Morf. The picture I posted is from 1970 and on Cleveland Ave. The KMart is still in that same spot. From what you quoted in Graysmith's book there had been a bomb threat a year earlier but it does not say the threat was also at the same KMart.
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Re: May 8, a connection to Zodiac?

Postby morf13 » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:13 am

Seagull wrote:I don't follow, Morf. The picture I posted is from 1970 and on Cleveland Ave. The KMart is still in that same spot. From what you quoted in Graysmith's book there had been a bomb threat a year earlier but it does not say the threat was also at the same KMart.


I don't have the book in front of me now. Maybe he didn't write that it was at the Kmart the year before, but if not at the Kmart, then where in Santa rosa?
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