Thoughts on the RH initials on the desk

Re: Thoughts on the RH initials on the desk

Postby Zresearch » Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:42 am

Also in the first ciphers, the crossed circle, the zodiac symbol, represented the letter "d", and assuming that zodiac would put significance on this symbol, and assuming that he was fairly egotistical, one could guess that "d" could be the first letter of zodiacs name.

In the "this is the zodiac speaking" documentary fellow offers refer to richard asv"dick", in theory the zodiac symbol being represented by the letter "d" could have stood for "dick hoffman"
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Re: Thoughts on the RH initials on the desk

Postby Dag MacLugh » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:15 am

A shot in the dark: anyone know if Richard Hoffman had any connection to Riverside?
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Re: Thoughts on the RH initials on the desk

Postby Quicktrader » Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:25 am

Recently cross-checked 18,840 surnames in combination with 300 most frequent first names (latter one covering 78% of the population). Resulted in 5.625m potential complete full name combinations. Out of those 5.625m values, only about two combinations with the initials 'RH' could be matched to the my-name-is cipher (e.g. 'RAUL...T.HURT').

It therefore is quite unlikely that the my-name-is cipher reveals Z's real name and, simultaneously, 'RH' were Z's initials. As long as Z's first name wasn't 'Raul', one may therefore conclude that the my-name-is cipher most likely excludes RH as being Z's initials.

The my-name-is cipher either doesn't contain Z's real name or Z's initials weren't RH (chance 78%).

No matter if you believe in RH being Z's initials or in the my-name-is cipher hiding Z's real name - both at the same time rather doesn't work out. You may try this by yourself by finding any name with the initials RH, with a total of 13 letters, that matches the my-name-is cipher. It shouldn't be too easy, though.

So either Z didn't hide his real name behind the cipher or the initials RH stand for something else, e.g. 'Ramona High'.

What if Z had not written his own but a potential victim's initials on the desktop?

Like somehow signalling what he had planned to do with RH (but later decided to kill someone else)?

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Re: Thoughts on the RH initials on the desk

Postby Zresearch » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:57 am

Dag MacLugh wrote:A shot in the dark: anyone know if Richard Hoffman had any connection to Riverside?


I'm curious as well, because I have been trying to rule out Hoffman as a person of interest in blue rock springs, but have only found further leads connecting Hoffman these other cases, even potentially to riverside.

Did you know that Cecelia Ann Shepard , from the lake berryessa attack, was a student at riverside?
This could be a potential connection between the Cheri Jo Bates case and the Cecelia Ann Shepard case.

(A friend of mine believes that zodiac was obsessed with movies, and that he had actually filmed his attacks, but I discount this notion, though it would explain the flashlight at blue rock springs and the elaborate costume at lake berryessa, as well as the eyes in the tree in the paul averly card, though I feel this is all simple coincidence)

Any way, I am occupied with clearing Hoffman as a suspect in blue rock springs at the moment... did you know that hoffman reported to be in the area just before the murder, then, when he responds by radio telling dispatch that he is on his way to the scene, it only takes him two minutes to get to mike's side, two minutes! Which leads,me to believe that he never went far from the scene of the murder, he was in the exact area before, most likely during, and after the murder... I was hoping that making my timeline was going to eliminate Hoffman as a suspect, but it's actually only making him look more suspicious...

I think there is a chance that richard Hoffman was involved in these killings, I also think there is a chance that the "rh" initials could stand for "richard Hoffman", however, it does not matter what one thinks, it matters what one can prove.
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Re: Thoughts on the RH initials on the desk

Postby CuriousCat » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:03 pm

Zresearch wrote:
Dag MacLugh wrote:A shot in the dark: anyone know if Richard Hoffman had any connection to Riverside?


I'm curious as well, because I have been trying to rule out Hoffman as a person of interest in blue rock springs, but have only found further leads connecting Hoffman these other cases, even potentially to riverside.



If Hoffman shot Ferrin and Mageau, who made the phone call?
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Re: Thoughts on the RH initials on the desk

Postby Skyward » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:36 pm

The desks were stored with some upside down onto each other and the poem was found on a desk stored in such a condition. It has been theorized that the author of the poem wrote it while the desk was in that non-class session state (someone else had this question).

My thoughts on rh are numerous, but I like the idea of the headmaster or principle of having a first name comprised R.H. and the morbid defacing of the writers surface done in his name, that is good theory! T.S. Elliot etc.

My own belief is that the initials are for Ross himself and denote a private planned fantasy of a stage name he at one time was thinking to inhabit. A change from his insecure previous self to a character such as Ross Holmsby or Ross Hatherton, Ross Hightower or Ross Hammerstein....a pen name which never came to pass....until he morphed into Zodiac.....

or maybe it stands for rh blood factor, the poem is about life's blood draining away from a woman, till she is found, only to die the "next time..."

The author has claimed the work, that much is evident.
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Re: Thoughts on the RH initials on the desk

Postby CuriousCat » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:54 am

I wonder if whoever wrote it did so somewhat in the style of one of their favorite poets, and initialed it with the poet's initials instead of their own.

There is a somewhat obscure poet from the 1800's named Richard H. Horne, know mostly for his epic poem "Orion". He was considered a tragedian poet, his work tended to be a little dark. He also had a poem titled "Ode to the Mikado of Japan".


https://ia802205.us.archive.org/9/items ... rnrich.pdf
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Re: Thoughts on the RH initials on the desk

Postby democracity » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:12 pm

Has anyone used a site such as Classmates.com to search for possible 'rh' matches? I did a quick search and found a couple 'rh' +/- a few years of 1966. Not sure how complete of a list this is, but it's a possible tool. Are there any other sources? Yearbooks, perhaps? -D
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Re: Thoughts on the RH initials on the desk

Postby Zresearch » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:18 am

It's been a long time since my last posts here, and my views have definitely evolved with my discovery of the evidence.

"Richard hoffman" is still a possibility for the "rh" on the desk in my mind, but I am very open to all other possibilities.
(Curiouscat, I feel I got to "the phone call" in like 3 other threads at this point, so I will spare the readers of repeating it here. )

That "class search thing" is actually a good idea, just find every student who initials are "rh" then do whatever research you can to narrow things down from there, like, look for an "rh" who fits other zodiac prerequisites. Its a long shot, but hey, it might turn up something.
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Re: Thoughts on the RH initials on the desk

Postby CuriousCat » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:22 pm

Zresearch wrote:(Curiouscat, I feel I got to "the phone call" in like 3 other threads at this point,


I asked that two months ago, which is one reason I say you are ignoring evidence that clears Hoffman of making the phone call. You won't even address how you are wrong that the call from Zodiac came in a 12:47 when it didn't. You know where this is all addressed, what thread, so you can answer there.
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