Misc. Bates Articles & Photos of Cheri Jo Bates

Misc. Bates Articles & Photos of Cheri Jo Bates

Postby morf13 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:18 pm

I am re-reading some of the Bates articles, and posting some here (my apologies if they have been posted before already).

Note- Some of these articles and pics were from the 10/30/67 News article, NOT the 10/1/67 date as mentioned by 'Patricia Hautz', as no 10/1/67 article existed.

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Re: Misc. Bates Articles & Photos of Cheri Jo Bates

Postby Seagull » Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:22 pm

Here are some Bates articles from the San Bernardino County Sun in 1966.

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Re: Misc. Bates Articles & Photos of Cheri Jo Bates

Postby Tahoe27 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:53 pm

Thanks for posting those seagull. Some interesting tidbits I had not seen before. Makes sense local papers might get a little more detailed.
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Re: Misc. Bates Articles & Photos of Cheri Jo Bates

Postby Seagull » Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:58 pm

A couple more articles from the San Bernardino County Sun. The first one really does not have anything to do directly with Cheri's murder but is about LE not getting paid overtime when investigating her case.

The second article was apparently written when "Bob Barnett" was thought to be Cheri's murderer. We now know that he was eliminated via his DNA not matching but that hasn't stopped Riverside still believing he was her killer. The article also includes some of the facts in the case, not all of which were known in the '60's. For instance this article says that the Desk Top/Bottom Poem was not found until January 1968.


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Re: Misc. Bates Articles & Photos of Cheri Jo Bates

Postby Tahoe27 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:18 pm

January of 1968. Doesn't help validate the poem much, but to those who believe in the handwriting, time isn't a factor I'm sure.

Bud Kelly is mentioned of course :x , and...I agree her killer was/is always a dirty creep.
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Re: Misc. Bates Articles & Photos of Cheri Jo Bates

Postby Seagull » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:44 pm

I thought the same thing about the desk poem, if it wasn't found until January 1968 it could have been written anytime after Cheri's murder. I've never been keen on that poem figuring into the Zodiac case because there are so many unknowns about it. I prefer to stick with the known evidence and clues because otherwise it's like going down a rabbit hole.
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Re: Misc. Bates Articles & Photos of Cheri Jo Bates

Postby Norse » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:21 am

That date can't be right, surely?

Incidentally, I was re-reading the FBI and CADOJ documents pertaining to the Bates case just now - and this is what the DOJ report states:

"During the month of December 1966 while removing several desks from the Riverside City College Library one of the custodians observed a poem written on one of the desks which reads as follows..."

In the FBI documents the discovery is described as having been made "some months" after the murder.

In other words, I think the journalist was simply mistaken. If the poem hadn't been discovered until January '68, I doubt anyone would have connected it to Bates (such is the nature of that poem, but that is another debate).
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Re: Misc. Bates Articles & Photos of Cheri Jo Bates

Postby Tahoe27 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:42 pm

That DOJ report is chock full of errors though and "some months" would definitely be more than a month or so.
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Re: Misc. Bates Articles & Photos of Cheri Jo Bates

Postby Norse » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:26 pm

The FBI report actually says "several months" - which makes it even more of a stretch to reconcile it with December 1966.

I don't know. But if "December 1966" is in reality "January 1968", well - that isn't an error. It's a complete shambles.

While there may be good reasons for taking the DOJ reports (this isn't the Zodiac DOJ report, BTW, it's the one dealing with Bates specifically) with a pinch of salt, I don't see any reason to implicitly trust a newspaper article written years after the fact either.

Doesn't really matter from where I'm sitting, though - the poem could have been written ten years before Bates as far as I'm concerned. What I mainly take from these reports is the undeniable fact that Morrill's conclusions regarding the Riverside evidence were controversial and disputed. And that the FBI were unable to confirm his verdicts.
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Re: Misc. Bates Articles & Photos of Cheri Jo Bates

Postby morf13 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:01 pm

Everything I have read has the desk being found by the end of 1966. I would rely more on the FBI & DOJ reports than the Newspaper. We have lots of instances of them being wrong.

Great articles by the way Seagull, I like re-reading these every once in a while
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