Similar to Cheri Jo 11-22-66 (In Riverside)

Similar to Cheri Jo 11-22-66 (In Riverside)

Postby Tahoe27 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:48 am

Here is a case similar to Cheri Jo that happened on November 22, 1966.

This has been discussed in several places here, and at several other sites as well. I found this via a post woodenIglooii made at Zodiac killer.com. (thx Wood!)

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http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/4278/I-DONT-GET-IT?page=1#.WWj1J4QrK70
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"...they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs--other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac's doorstep." L.A. Times, 1969
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Re: Similar to Cheri Jo 11-22-66 (In Riverside)

Postby Soze » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:45 pm

Given the confession letter and Cheri's attack I can see the similarities. However.....

In the case of Cheri we see the killer just kills her straight away. No apparent taking off of clothes, etc.

With this girl he taunts. He is then successful at receiving some clothes. Had she not been strong and determined he would have likely had his way with her and likely killed her in the end. Thankfully she was who she was.

So I suppose my question here is:

Why kill Cheri straight away and not this girl if both attackers are possibly the same?

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Re: Similar to Cheri Jo 11-22-66 (In Riverside)

Postby monarch » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:59 pm

Maybe he didn't kill Cheri straight away, there was a large time gap between the library closing at 9 PM and the screams
heard at 10:30 PM.
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Re: Similar to Cheri Jo 11-22-66 (In Riverside)

Postby morf13 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:17 pm

Thanks for posting this Tahoe. It's been a while since I've read this article
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Re: Similar to Cheri Jo 11-22-66 (In Riverside)

Postby Dag MacLugh » Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:20 am

My POI lived off Linden at the time of this kidnapping, which I mentioned in a letter to RPD personnel. Not surprisingly, I received no reply. I've concluded that we'll never get a meaningful response from RPD for two reasons: we are dismissed as kooks; and, should one of us actually solve the Bates murder, RPD would look both foolish and incompetent.
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Re: Similar to Cheri Jo 11-22-66 (In Riverside)

Postby Tahoe27 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:26 am

Dag MacLugh wrote:My POI lived off Linden at the time of this kidnapping, which I mentioned in a letter to RPD personnel. Not surprisingly, I received no reply. I've concluded that we'll never get a meaningful response from RPD for two reasons: we are dismissed as kooks; and, should one of us actually solve the Bates murder, RPD would look both foolish and incompetent.


Third reason: They looked at your guy, and it couldn't have been him.

Detectives are busy people. If they took the time to respond to every person who contacted them about Zodiac (I think everyone mentions Zodiac...probably one negative check-mark against a response), they'd need a full-time employee just to type letters and return phone calls. :)
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Re: Similar to Cheri Jo 11-22-66 (In Riverside)

Postby Dag MacLugh » Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:45 pm

Good point, Tahoe. Everyone who has a POI thinks his/her guy is Zodiac. I'm no different.
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Re: Similar to Cheri Jo 11-22-66 (In Riverside)

Postby Tahoe27 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:42 pm

I honestly think people might get a better response (if any) if they didn't refer to Zodiac.
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Re: Similar to Cheri Jo 11-22-66 (In Riverside)

Postby Pettibon Junction » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:59 am

Tahoe27 wrote:I honestly think people might get a better response (if any) if they didn't refer to Zodiac.


Agreed.
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Re: Similar to Cheri Jo 11-22-66 (In Riverside)

Postby SillyBilly » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:56 am

I wonder if the victim is still alive and could be contacted to tell her side of the story.
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